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Send your Gun Guy and Gun Gal opinions to mailbag@gunguys.com. NOTE: If we feel like it, any email you send to Gun Guys may be published with your name. Don't hold your fire, we want to hear from you. Sincerely, Mike Magnum, Proprietor of Gunguys.com gun shop and liquor emporium. Law and Order, Iraq Style Heres some bizarre irony: The Bush administration, who are about to let the Assault Rifle Ban expire, has decided to issue an order to the US military command in Iraq to start CONFISCATING assault rifles from all Iraqi citizens, so as to stop rampant crime, violence, and lawlessness on the streets of Baghdad. Now I thought rightwing logic said that in order to maintain law and order, the citizenry of a country should be well armed with the most sophisticated hardware gun manufacturers could come up with. So our GOP leaders, who attack liberalism and democrats, who are against socialistic ideas like nationalizing health care and industry, and resist any form of gun control in America, has set a goal for liberal democracy in Iraq, complete with a national health system, nationalization of its oil resourses, and total gun ban on the Iraqi people. We should have it so good. ATTAburnsinhell Re: Gun Owners To all those that has fallen to the lies of the Damn Liberal polititons with supporting a ban on all weapons from private owner's just how in the Hell would you ever protect yourself or your Children when someone breaks into your home with threats of Killing everyone ? Police sure cant get to you on time before your brains are splattered all over the room after they have raped you and your Children, Courts wont help you even if they do Catch them as for instance look at the State of illinois, all on Death row were released and now some are suing the State and will Win Millions of Dollars. Our legal rights are being taken away at a rate of 3 per week and wont be long until we have none so sit back and allow our Political leaders to steal your rights then who in the Hell will you complain to ? guess you will still be able to use the Outhouse to take a leak but then again none may have one anymore if the thiefs in Washington have their way. Be a cold day in Hell Before I give up any of my Weapons from a small .22 pistol to my AK-47 with Banana clips fully loaded, and yes I am a retired Deputy Sheriff so get off your ass and stand up for our rights unless you still wear the apron or hide behind a Dress with your Boyfriend, sissy limber wrist. Gary Florida Accidental Logic Hi Mike and all -I have seen several posts mention all the other kinds of accidents that happen to people besides being accidentally shot. Car accidents, monkey wrench accidents, bucket accidents, all sorts of deadly things. People have accidents, they say, so why are guns singled out. To restrict the use of guns is to restrict our freedoms. However, the point about guns is they are a tool to injure or kill. That is it. If they are used at all, that is what they do. The don't take us places, turn bolts, or carry water. But if there are ways we can prevent needless deaths, shouldn't we look into that? If you don't think so, then, please, by all means, feel free to never use your seat belt again. I don't actually have a problem with hand guns or hunting rifles. However, I don't think we need huge calibers, no safety features, huge clips, concealed weapons or automatic rifles to protect ourselves or our freedoms. I think we lose more freedoms retricting speech and ideas than we do retricting gun use and ownership. If they suspend habeus corpus for a few things now, you bet that will be expanded to other crimes later. That, friends, is a lot more dangerous than no allowing concealed weapons in city buildings. I don't see you gun folks all worked up about that, or about more intrusive surveillance laws etc. Just wait til a terrorist uses a gun on American soil. Hoo boy. And as for criminals and terorists not being able to afford guns... uh... what? Do you think a thief is gonna pay for the gun he or she steals? Or that the market price on the street for guns is what you pay for them at Walmart? An average of 50k handguns (not rifles etc) were stolen between 68 and 94 (FBI) and that is the *lowest* figure I could find. So, um, no credit or background check needed. And the militia thing. You know, guns, even concealed automatic ones, will not prevent tyranny. They just won't. An educated, involved, enlightened populace will. The Minutemen were effective because of the will to resist, not the presence of guns. The Indians under Gandhi had none and prevailed. The Palestinians have plenty and well, see for yourself. My motto is, if the only way you can defend your family is to spray your home with automatic weapons fire, or hunt one of your neighborhood grizzlies with a .500 S&W, then, man, get thee to a gun class pronto. Thucydides, or The Guy who isn't all liberal or all conservative. Hmmm It seems you and your liberal brethren have a certain fear of guns. When I start hearing reports of guns growing arms and legs, I'll be right with you diluted fools. Ian Bunch of Freaks Geez, what is it with guns? They are designed to kill people. The gun people know this because they know the composition of the bullets and what materials (like kevlar armour) they can penetrate. So tell me gun people, how many kevlar plated targets have you shot on the range lately? I don't care if they teach their kids to use the guns properly….. That won't mean dick when their buddies misfires a bullet into their head. I live in New Zealand and we don't allow guns just for the hell of it. We have very strict gun laws and procedures. Having said that, we do occasionally have a shooting by some nutbar. However, this type of event is so infrequent that it makes national news 3 nights in a row. And when I read shit like this: " clean good Godly fun and fellowship" I can't help but imagine group of guys in a gun-oil lubricated circle-jerk. Peace. Rob Operation Iraqi Liberation: It Must Be a Hoax, After All, If Individual Iraqis Can't Own Guns Apparently the Americans (oops, the "Coalition") has banned individual ownership of guns by Iraqis. Now that they're free, shouldn't they have the same unfettered rights as we enjoy, including the right to "self-defense"? What does this say about U.S. occupation of foreign lands? Is the rhetoric of liberation really a lie? I believe Chuck Heston and the NRA are morally obligated to start a "Guns for Iraq" campaign. The Iraqis will never be free under a gun-confiscating foreign oppressor. Nick My two cents from puny, pacifist canada Hey Gun Guys. Cool site. I linked in from Michael Moore's site. I always thought the right to bear arms was a typo. They actually meant the right to "bare" arms. I read somewhere on your site there were 11,000 gun deaths in the U.S. last year!!! That's more casualties than some wars. How many of those were accidental deaths of innocent victims, children playing with guns, etc. Pretty high, I bet. I love your country, and I love your people, but the prevalence of guns in the US scares the hell out of me. The only time I visit is when I have to for work, then I get the hell out before I can become another innocent victim. We have our problems up here, and a lot of the guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled from across the border. Anyone notice the irony that our new impending pot laws scare the hell out of your government, yet you allow people to walk around armed with guns. Which is crazier and scarier? Keep up the good work. Robert Seagraves Guns in Iraq What were/are the gun laws in Iraq? It appears that under Saddam many or most citizens had guns.....Why weren't they free???? The bumper sticker tells me that "Only Free Men Own Guns"???? Wouldn't it follow that all gun owners are free men????? Pops Dear Gun Guys: It's not going to stop with the S&W .50-caliber Super Dirty Harry. Once the next new toy comes out, gun fanatics are going to want that too. If they're not allowed to, then they're going to complain about how their rights are denied. Gun lovers defend their position by saying how totalitarian regimes got that way by banning guns. Well, there are plenty of countries whose gun laws are just as restrictive, yet they're not totalitarian nor unsafe. In fact, some of them are more progressive and safer than America. Johnny Tony the Tiger's Big Bowl. . . Gunguys: I tune into you guys and enjoy catching up on all of the articles across the US on the careless use of guns. Your column for May triggered a thought that with the government passing bills to release any liability that corporations might have. . .makes me wonder why they keep pursuing drugs and cigarettes with such vigor. After all, people are worth more to Bush after death than when they stubbornly refuse to die. Under the Bush Regime, a human live has been replaced with a cash value. I wonder if he has given any thought as to the value of his life according to his importance to this government? eh? Just askin. . . Shirley Smith The difference between a gun and a bottle of ketchup... I once heard a caller on Rush Limaugh's radio program ask the question that if while seated in a restaurant, you can pick up a bottle of ketchup and hit someone over the head with it and kill them, should the anti-gun people not call for a ban on ketchup bottles? Hmmm. I see that two of the GunGuys email'ers, kenny smith and Dale Piper, make the same point. Well, how about I stand on one side of a room with a gun, and these three idiots can stand on the other side of the room with ketchup bottles, hammers, crowbars, 5 gallon buckets and monkey wrenches, and then after the fight is over, they can tell us if they NOW understand why we want guns banned and not these other common household items. Of course, according to kenny smith's logic, there is a possibility that I might accidentally fall down and choke to death before I can squeeze off three rounds from my gun, killing them, but I'd be willing to take that chance... Keith Robertson What are you afraid of? Orwell recognized that "trading freedom for security is a death trap". We just have to accept and deal with, on a day to day basis, the reality that a free people, especially a people under legalistic attack by the bushitas, are going to have guns, law or no law. I despise the NRA attitude of "law-abiding..." bs! I don't care who has a gun. The more the better! When only the police have guns you're living in a police state! Bill Dampier Godly Gun and Fellowship I can't help but be stunned and amazed that some moron out there equates guns with God - where does this come from? Who has ever read the Bible ( I don't doubt that this ignoramus thinks he is a Christian of some sort ) and got the impression that Jesus Christ would be a supporter of firearms rights? Let me clue you in, Heston was not REALLY Moses people, those stone tablets didn't say anything about owning weapons or defending yourself. That was the Constitution, a relatively secular document. You can own guns, that secular, legal document does protect you doing that within reason, but don't make God your argument. Paul Simple Answer to the Gun Problem I am forever amazed at the crap the public are fed regarding gun control. The problem is not the fact that people will kill each other when one of them has an upper hand but that they truly beleive they have the right to do so. My plan is simple "BAN THE BULLETS" .Goodness I hear you cry that could never be the answer so many would be put out of work. Look it up, it won't. People will still get bullets. No, not if you make that the illegal act. Your comments? Ian eddie eagle nice little rant there. my questions are many but I will keep them few. do you support sex education in the classroom? if so, using your logic, would that not mean that due to the information given and the "do as I do, not as I say" theory they would be more prone to have sex? Conversely you may argue that hey if they don't get it at school then they learn it from the streets. couldn't the same argument be made for guns. the eddie eagle program no more promotes gun usage than sex ed promotes cock usage. it is the dissemination of pertinant information that beats getting your education about guns from some hoodlum on the streets or worse yet none at all. thanks and I look forward to your reply. Kent Collins Louisville Slugger vs. Ford What kills more the bat or the car? Neither! Now put the same objects in the control of a mad drunk and the song changes. How 'bout this one... Puddle of water and an eletric cord. Now add a small child without supervision. ZAP! Okay, okay. You need more! A swimming pool without a fence and a child without supervision. Deep six! Here's another. Foster care parents that only want the State's money It really doesn't matter where the child is as long as the cash flows. OH...OH here's another. Young man selling crack on corner. His turf? There turf? How knows, but one will kill the other. Now, let's go to fantasy land. Hollyweird! We've got "superstars"(Arnold S.) playing with guns, while their wives(Maria S.) stand up on T.V. and tell the American audience that guns kill. Give us a break! The fact is that the focus is directed towards the wrong item. I don't see the "Gunguys" standing up and telling the violent ones,(crackheads or Arnold Swartzanigger) to stop. All I see is the motivation to stop legal gun makers and owners. Maybe if your energy was spent on a program that would tell the young crack man that he is his own worst enemy or if you approached Hollyweird actors and tell them to knock of the violent movies, then I would have more respect for you. But as long as you say that guns kill, then you haven't convinced me. Duke P.S. No, I'm not the hard right winger that you think. I just don't think it is right to address a problem without proper identification of the problem. eddie eagle reactions As much as a loathe the NRA and firearms, I would have to commend their efforts to educate children on gun safety. Perhaps they can succeed where parents and liberals fall short. The debate will continue tomorrow and children will be living in homes with firearms, tomorrow. Are there other active educational programs designed to teach children what to do if they come in contact with a firearm? Does Eddie Eagle somehow promote gun consuming? I think your editorial on anti-NRA/firearm legislation falls short this month. You are clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel. Please try harder. Kevin Barnett Hi Well you help me with a new site? I am making a site to protest the production of a knife that has a blade larger then 3". I see no reason for this except to use in brutal crimes. Ellis Studios blah blah blah i can't believe that pages like yours can exist...it's a shame...why do u idiots need guns? no dicks? probably not "wow, i'm so fucking hot with my gun..i changed it against my dick, don't need it really..." *hoho* wie männlich! it's enough sad, that those gangs all kill themselve with that money wasting thing called gun...but no, u guys need to make a page, yeh, why not? all nra-fanaticer...sick...luckly we don't have such lousy laws like u have in the usa...luckly we don't have such brainless nuts in the gov (fuck rumsfeld!!)... zürich (that's in switzerland, which DOESN'T belong to germany, and we never had anything to do with hitler...i'm writing u that, cause 80% of those damn republicans didn't know that...but, ok, they're republican, that means, they don't need a brain...bush lost his when he was born...harr harr) felizia salomon You can have it both ways Dear Gun Guys and Americans in general, What continues to strike me in the emails on your site, is the polarization that's always present in America: you're Left or Right, 'for us or against us', 'everyone has the right to own a gun, or noone has'. But you _can_ have it both ways, there _is_ a middle ground. In Holland, as a private individual you are _not_ allowed to own a gun, _except_ if you have been a member of a gun-sports club for at least a year, and have attended trainings and practice at least once a month. Also, the board of the club has to recommend you to the police for a permit. The permit will always be denied if you have a criminal record, of have engaged in ill behaviour (drunk driving, certain repeated misdemeanors, etc). You can also get a permit for hunting, but the regulations for that are obviously much more strict, because you are out in the open air, instead of a concrete shooting range. There are also strict regulations about storing your gun at home, you must have a gun safe, and the police can come inspect this at any time they want (that's the price of freedom), on average once every 3 years. So you see, if you are a lover of the sport, or of hunting, or want to sail around the world (you're required to have a gun on your boat, against pirates!), then _you can_ own and enjoy your gun(s). If you are a criminal, untrained, or perceived unreliable or dangerous by the police, then you _cannot_. How can you possibly not be in favor of a system like this? I mean, even the most fanatical gun owners should somewhat dislike the thought of their children being shot in the head by another high-schooler? All the beautiful AK-47's in the attic aren't going to be of much use then, right? I hope you hear me Lex van der Sluijs MSc "If we feel like it, any email you send to Gun Guys may be published with your name" eh? note: "may be published " (or not!) (especially "not") so - you deal the cards 'till you get the ones you want? a tired old game in rhetoric. You ought to know that people see through it and that using this trick undermines your position. so, to prove the point to you, not to me, once again: Hey Guys! What are you afraid of? Even that rat fink Orwell (an informer!) recognized that "trading freedom for security is a death trap". Like it or not the world is full of guns. People just will have them. People anywhere, everywhere. We just have to accept and deal with, on a day to day basis, the reality that people, especially a people under legalistic or violent attack by fascists, are going to have guns, law or no law. I despise the NRA and its bs attitude of "law-abiding..." I don't care who has a gun, "criminal" or not. If you don't want one then don't buy one, but when only the police have guns then you're going to be living in a police state! Is that what you want? Bill Dampier You Might Publish This? Mike "magnum" of gunguys: magnum for Champaign right? You can't be referring to any firearm; I seriously doubt if you know which end to hold. I imagine if the barrel were long enough, you would tie a white flag to it. I am sure that any member of the French military could show you how, just write to "Isabelle" for instructions. Katherine: There is not any technique for the safe handling of any loaded firearm while cleaning it. There are NO accidents; someone pulls the trigger. That action is one of either carelessness or intent. Cathie: Ballistics Registry is a farce. The more often the firearm is discharged, the more the ballistic markings will change from that original registration. A useless, liberal "feel good" gesture…as are most liberal ideas. It is the Second amendment that allows you at gunguys [and elsewhere] the 1st Amendment. If you are an American there should not be any need for an explanation. If you are a non-American, butt out. Very simple: The 2nd Amendment is there to protect us from external & internal threats. Randy hi I enjoy reading the mailbag. Up here in British Columbia we've been hearing alot lately from your head Narc and how distressed he is about our pot situation. The new laws will ease up on kids getting criminal records for weed possession under 50 grams. (a nice round number) He says our laws are Canada's business, but when this POISON seeps across the border, well sir: Then its OUR BUSINESS. He's getting pretty worked up.All red faced and stuff. Anyway, guess what? Kids are starting to show up at Canadian schools with GUNS. GUNS that can actually KILL people. -Not just make them feel silly and want to eat Oreo's and listen to Pink Floyd. No. These things can END LIVES. I'm not sure our kids even realize that. They see all these cool movies made in America where everybody is shooting everybody else and everything in sight, and they think: All Right! Then they go ahead and point one of these things at the Teachers Pet and pull the trigger. "This will shut you up for awhile". Well no. This will shut him up FOREVER son... So I just wanted to say to the head cop down there, John whats his face, Your laws are your own business John. You want to shoot your wife, your dog, your boss: fine. However, when this POISON starts coming across our border here in Canada? Then its OUR business. So just as you are trying to influence the debate on pot here in Canada to suit your own wholesome, God fearing moral stance? We feel its only right that we start trying to do something about the gun situation in your country. Fair is fair right? I mean pot is one thing, but when GUNS start showing up in Canada, well thats another thing all together. You could hurt someone with one of those things John. Lois Excellent! Excellent, excellent site! Love the art, too. Sometimes I get close to despair when I think of the short-sightedness of rabid gun "enthusiasts." Defeating S.659 just makes sense to me-if the gun industry won't police themselves (as all moral corporations surely want to do the in the Republican States of America, Right?) then at least let people hit 'em back when they knowingly sell guns to dirty dealers that end up being used to kill their families. Michael A Brit's point of view After reading some of the comments here, I HAD to make some points. We have some very strict gun laws here AND I AM GLAD. Crime is at it's lowest level ever, I know for a fact that no trigger happy 16 year old from the school down the road can shoot me in the morning, none of my work collegues will "go postal" and if any nut out there ever wanted a gun, they have to jump through a LOT of hoops to get one. All the "Oh, theres sooooo much gun crime in the UK" is complete bollocks dreamt up by the right wing press. We get a few, but considering our population of 56 million, the number of people killed a week by guns in the UK is still countable on one hand, so those inbred red neck gun nuts should actually be able to count up to that number. Lets face it, if we are talking "manliness", not that I need to buy an inanimate object for that, guns are for pussy's who are too scared to take a punch in the face and too weak to give one. Hell, I know for a fact if someone pointed a gun at me, all I have to do is say "BOO" to them and they would probably piss themselves. Well, thats a Brit's point of view anyway Vishal A Gun Is a Terrible thing to taste Hey Gun Guys! Excellent work, quite a catalyst for conversation you have there. I just felt compelled to write a few lines and ask the pro-gun folks out there a few questions... 1. What are you so afraid of? If its self defence you are after, there are a myriad of martial arts, techniques so deadly and with so much stopping power that a handgun pales in comparison. If it is those commie hippy types, i wouldn't worry too much, unless you've hidden their weed. 2. Do you really think that 'How come no one complains about all the deaths from monkey wrenches' is a logical argument? While, no doubt, people are killed with monkey wrenches, this is not their primary purpose. In fact it would be pretty hard to kill someone with a monkey wrench from 30 yards out, eh? Guns, and particularly Hand Guns, are designed for the explicit purpose of killing humans, make no mistake. At least a monkey wrench can help you fix your car. 3. Are you ever going to learn? The people in your family have a greater chance of being killed with YOUR gun than by the hands of some 'predator.' 4. Did you ever think that maybe you were being fed a bunch of scary crap by the media, so that our government's gun lobby buddies could put in that new pool? Step outside your country one day and take a look at someone else's version of the news. Sometimes, citizens there are allowed to go through Entire Weeks without once having to hear about some kook who could be on the loose in your neighborhood as we speak. IT IS A CALCULATED ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE US. 5. Are you unfamiliar with true power? Take a good look at the heroes our society has produced. None use guns, few resort to violence. If you are so goddamned concerned about security and self preservation, WORK FOR JUSTICE. A man with a full belly has little motive for armed robbery. For all you smart guy commandos out there who don't seem to get it, buy the 'Butter Battle Book' by Dr. Seuss. Follow your logic all the way, don't jusy stop where it seems safe. Thanks for your time and keep up the good work! James Francis Just been reading through the mail bags. just a question, why is it at that the "gun nuts" continually resort to sexual slurs to defend their predeliction for hardware. I think they protest too much......! sincerely Mark H Remember the Second Amendment Gun Guys- Two important things everyone should remember about the Second Amendment: 1. Its name is written with only two “m”s, not three. 2. Its purpose was “to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of” the Constitutionally recognized state militia, made up of a “body of citizens enrolled for military discipline,” as the Supreme Court put it (U.S. v. Miller, 1939). It was not written to protect the firepower of gunners as individuals. - Jack Weaver UK gun laws? Hello gunguys, I am one of those poor English people who cannot leave my home because of the 'spiralling gun crime' on the streets in London, oh my god it's just like the wild west now since they banned alll handguns. Despite the fact that guns were never permitted to be carried in public anyway. Actually I jest, gun crime, what gun crime? Yes there has been an increase in certain areas, but in a small country like England any increase at all is far more noticeable than in somewhere as vast as the US. The main difference here is that the only people carrying guns in the UK are the police, and a small percentage of criminals. So the chances of heated disputes becoming gun related killings is remote to say the least. I read the replies from the pro gun people on your site, it looks to me like these people are living in fear, they truly believe that if they do not have a gun then hordes of criminals will rob and rape them at gunpoint. Perhaps that is true for the US, I wouldn't know I have never been there, but I assure you the UK doesn't need guns. I do not fear gun crime, quite simply because I do not have a gun. What these people fail to realize is that if the general population is carrying guns, then the criminals will be far more inclined to as well, and not only carry them but use them. After all if there is a very real danger of someone shooting back at you, then you will make sure you shoot them first. I have heard many times the opposite to this, people saying if we are going to shoot back they will think twice. Who are they kidding? These are criminals we are talking about here, often desperate people who will do anything to get what they want. I feel for the American people, you have made a millstone and hung it around your necks with your gun laws, it's going to be a very long and difficult road to undo something so ingrained in your culture. I wish you all the best and will be checking your site regularily. I hope this clears things up a little for those people who want to use UK gun laws as an example of how banning weapons doesn't work. It actually does work, there will always be criminals, and they will always use weapons if they choose to, shooting back at them is only going to make things worse not better. Regards Sarah Kemsing congratulations- you are honestly doing a good job Maybe its because, although im officially an american, ive lived all my life in rainy old england, but i just dont understand the arguments of these pro gun lobbyists that are berating your mailbag. The analogy of a gun being as dangerous as a hammer or crowbar due to its inanimacy is utterly ridiculous. Obviously, they cant kill people on their own accord, they are designed to KILL, and that is their ONLY purpose. A hammer nails things, a crowbar opens crates, guns kill. And while, in a ridiculously pedantic, technical way, people, not guns kill people, it is far easier for a someone with a gun to kill. Why quote a 200+ year old law that was created to help protect americans from the british as a valuable argument that handgun ownership should be permitted in the 21st century? Thanks for doing a brilliant job with your website- Danny Griffin More pro gun stuff.... I would just like to say that everyone has the right to their own opinion, that's what makes this America. Good thing my ancestors owned guns or we would all be living in the "New England". I have also read a lot of remarks from those inhabiting gun-free countries. They always say that the gun deaths are low because the guns there have been outlawed. What about the people that are stabbed to death, or beaten to death, or hacked to death. People are always going to kill each other, if they have guns or not. It's a violent world out there, and only the strong survive. The only thing the anti-gunners can do is pray the U.S. turns into a socialists state run by the United Nations, so they can get their wish. Sincerely, Wayne R. Swank What have they got? Great Site, as I assume you've heard several hundred of thousand of times. You offer both, cold killing gun facts of everyday life and the paranoiac, infantile, gun leeching rabble to spew. But beyond their nonsense, they couldn't offer up a site dedicated to how guns save countless lives everyday. They don't have the balls to setup a "challenge" site to make a real statement like you and your crew do, "every damn day". If we're lucky, those who live by the sword, die by it...even faster when they're aggressively remedial subhuman fodder. Peace, Darnell |
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